David Pepose (Spencer & Locke, Going to the Chapel) joins Joey to talk about his Kickstarter The O.Z. #1, and what he learned from his background in comics journalism and through Comics Experience classes that prepared him to make his own comics. And in a second conversation J.D. Oliva (Deluge, The Books of Jericho) talks about the Kickstarter for his prose novel Harvest Moon, what he learned from making comics and Comics Experience that translates to writing prose, and the importance of page turns.